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FSU likely looking at high scoring-“track meet” at Syracuse

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In what is the most prominent game of the weekend involving state school teams, FSU limps into the Carrier Dome for a Saturday noon game with Syracuse.

With growing concern about Coach Willie Taggart just two games in, the Noles need some positive things to happen and try to find a way to come out of Western New York with a victory.

One thing is obvious, Florida State’s defense is in disarray and with Syracuse having a powerful dual-threat quarterback, the Seminoles will likely have to win in a high-scoring “track meet” type game.

Even though Florida State played better in the second half defensively in both of their home games with Virginia Tech and Samford last week, there’s still real cause for concern.

For example, short week or not, Samford quarterback Devlin Hodges threw for 475 yards on the FSU defense and receiver Kelvin McKnight had a career night at Doak Campbell with 14 catches, 215 yards and 2 touchdowns.

Yes, Florida State slowed the Bulldogs down in the second half holding them only to one field goal. And did register four interceptions of Hodges. Still the most Ardent FSU supporters have to be concerned that Florida State has given up an average of 422 yards and 25 points in their first two games.

As for the ‘Cuse, QB Eric Dungey (above) is probably a better runner than passer, and the Orange have gone over 450 yards in both of their opening games while scoring 107 points.

Now, the quality of competition was Wagner and Western Michigan, but still yards are yards and points are points.

New FSU defensive coordinator Harlon Barnett has got to find some answers for the read option and Dungey’s Mobility. Unfortunately, Florida State doesn’t have the usual talented physical and fast front seven that fans have been accustomed to in Tallahassee over the years.

So more than likely, quarterback Deondre Francois, running back Cam Akers and receiver Nyquan Murray are going to have to help put a lot of points up on the board, if Florida State hopes to get out of the Dome with a much-needed ACC win

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FSU and USF both concerned with support in rivalry home games

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It’s rivalry weekend in college football and in the sunshine stay that means that FSU gets set to play host to arch-rival Florida Saturday at noon in Tallahassee.

Meanwhile, a rivalry that hasn’t existed as long or been nearly is heated and hated, but still has huge significance, is USF playing the latest edition of the “War on I-4” against UCF, Friday afternoon in Tampa.

And in both cases, the home team is struggling. Struggling for wins. And, struggling to get their fans energized in their Market. And finally, struggling with the prospect that the opposing team may bring a large and Loud contingent into their Stadium this weekend.

Seminoles boss Willie Taggart met with the media off of his team’s 22 – 21 dramatic comeback win (above) Saturday night over Boston College and is ready for his first taste of the FSU – Florida game as a head coach:

Taggart is specifically concerned with the early noon start to the game on Saturday and that there will not be as many students, etc. filling Doak Campbell Stadium. The Noles had at least 20,000 empty seats Saturday and a lot in the student sections. And, with the Gators having won two weeks ago in dramatic fashion over South Carolina, and then, blowing out Idaho, there may be a lot of orange and blue when he looks around on their home field.

Likewise, Bulls coach Charlie Strong met with the media in Tampa Monday and expressed similar concerns about UCF coming into Raymond James Stadium.

Answering a question about fears that UCF might bring 15-20,000 or more fans across I-4 to complete another perfect regular season, here was his response on that and other subjects:

Strong experienced the UCF rivalry firsthand in Orlando last year, when the Bulls and the Knights engaged in one of the wildest and most dramatic games of 2017. This is specifically because, UCF was trying to complete a perfect regular season a year ago and the Bulls “battled them tooth and nail” until the final minutes, when Mike Hughes’ kickoff return for a touchdown provided the ultimate margin of Victory.

UCF went on to a 13 – 0 American Conference Championship season and a win in the Peach Bowl over Auburn.

However, unlike Florida State off the high of a victory at home last week, USF is reeling having lost four straight games, including blowing a 17 point lead to lose the Temple last Saturday. The Bulls also get one less day to prepare with the game being on Friday afternoon.

Still, these are both rivalry games and even if the home team will be considered the underdog, which they both are in Vegas, anything can truly happen.

And Taggart and Strong will be preaching that to their teams this week.

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Florida State has bigger concerns than keeping bowl streak alive

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The Grinch movie is now playing in theaters. If I am to be the Grinch for Florida State fans, so be it. I don’t much care.

Look, folks: What matters at Florida State when football is discussed? What is truly important, and what is peripheral?

Yes, no one needs to tell me that a 36-year bowl streak possibly ending is a sign of how far the Seminoles have fallen. The bowl streak is rightly a point of pride, and losing it would hurt. Something which separated Florida State from other programs could soon be lost. Disappointment is a natural reaction, and I don’t want to take that away from anyone.

Here is where the discussion changes, however: That disappointment should not be primarily connected to the end of the bowl streak itself. The disappointment should be much more connected to the state of the program and the uncertainty in which it exists. The state of the program is why the bowl streak is in jeopardy, and likely to end if we are being brutally honest. The state of the program should be the top concern for everyone who cares about Seminole football. The bowl streak potentially ending would be a symptom of internal not, not a cause.

Boston College is a better team than Florida State. However, the Eagles are hardly healthy heading into this Saturday’s game. If Florida State got off the deck and won, it would not be an extraordinary upset, especially since B.C. might still be thinking about the Clemson game… and might not physically bounce back from the pounding the Tigers applied to Steve Addazio’s team.

If Florida State beat Florida, it would be a slight surprise, but nothing more than that — not with Feleipe Franks giving the Gators yet another mediocre quarterback in a decade full of cringe-inducing passing games in Gainesville.

The point of those last few statements about Boston College and Florida is simply this: Would winning out to get to 6-6 show that everything is fixed? Would winning these next two games indicate that Florida State is on its way back?

You know the answer to that question. You know that in a year when Miami and Virginia Tech have also crumbled — not just Florida State — the ACC faces more uncertainty from teams 2 through 14 than it has in previous years. My goodness — what in the ever-loving heck is going to happen in 2019? The forecast is as cloudy as one can ever recall for the 13 non-Clemson teams in the ACC. Florida State is just “one of a bunch of mystery teams” right now. What happens the next two weeks might offer small developments, good or bad, but we’re kidding ourselves if we think these games will have a substantial impact on next season.

What Willie Taggart has endured this season — and what he has himself failed to address this season — reminds me a lot of Charlie Strong’s first year at Texas. Strong lamented the character and attitude of the players he inherited from Mack Brown. He clearly struggled to get through to his team over the course of the season. By season’s end, the problems which had surfaced in September and October had not been nipped in the bud. There was no clear sign that the coach and his roster had begun to mesh. Strong also lacked an elite offensive coordinator. Shawn Watson came with him from Louisville, where the Cardinals had won the 2013 Sugar Bowl… but everyone could see that Teddy Bridgewater’s talent, more than Watson’s play selection, carried the Cardinals.

Want a salient comparison to Bridgewater and Watson at Louisville? Try Sam Darnold with offensive coordinator Tee Martin under head coach Clay Helton at USC. The quarterback was carrying the coordinator, not the other way around. Charlie Strong felt Watson was good enough to cut the mustard at Texas. Willie Taggart thought that Walt Bell was good enough to handle the heat at Florida State. After 10 games, the results don’t look good at all, and quarterback questions are still swirling around the head coach. Year 1 for Taggart in Tallahassee is a lot like Year 1 for Charlie Strong in Austin.

This doesn’t mean Taggart is destined to fail, but it does mean that this season has raised more questions than it has answered. This year has amplified concerns, instead of amplifying optimism. It doesn’t mean Taggart is doomed, but it does mean Willie has to make substantial changes in order to get this ship moving in the right direction.

Wins over Boston College and Florida would not change any of what has been written above. For Florida State and 12 other non-Clemson programs in the ACC, 2019 is a vast and foggy landscape. Visibility is near-zero. There is no speedway to relevance. Drivers have to drive at 15 miles per hour in this all-encompassing fog until it lifts.

You will forgive me, then, for not being overly concerned about this bowl streak.

Real talk, Seminole fans: You have every right to be upset about the prospect of the streak ending — it is, as acknowledged above, a legitimate point of pride in a program. However, tell me how much it really means to go 6-6 and play in Shreveport against a Conference USA team? Tell me how much it means to play in front of 20,000 fans the day after Christmas with ESPN’s 13th-best broadcasting crew calling the action? Tell me how much it truly means to face a Sun Belt school at 1 p.m. on a December weekday in 40-degree weather?

THAT is not something worth preserving at all costs. THAT is not something to be proud of.

Florida State should expect to play in New Year’s Six bowls in a majority of seasons. That is the standard this program has built over a long period of time. That should be the standard for coaches under normal circumstances. (What Willie Taggart faced in 2018 was not a normal circumstance.)

2018 has been a bad season for many reasons. If the bowl streak ends, that will be one… but the end of the bowl streak won’t be the main reason this season will be recalled as an “annus horribilis,” to borrow the Latin term. This season is bad chiefly because it has not laid the groundwork — not with any clarity, at least — for a New Year’s Six bowl season in 2019.

This was supposed to be a transitional year. Such seasons are not supposed to be immensely successful, and in a tougher, better ACC akin to what we saw in 2016, a 4-6 record wouldn’t even have been all that bad. If Florida State had played 2016 Louisville and 2016 Virginia Tech and 2016 Wake Forest this year, a 4-6 mark through 10 games wouldn’t seem like such an embarrassment. The bowl streak would still be endangered, but the sense of erosion in and around the program wouldn’t be nearly as acute.

The 4-6 record FSU carries into mid-November is bad because it has been forged in one of the weakest ACCs one can recall. The rise of programs such as Boston College, Pitt and Syracuse seems much more connected to the fall of Florida State than to those three programs’ improvements. They have filled a vacuum left by FSU, Miami, Louisville and Virginia Tech more than they have created their own shimmering new standard of performance. This season’s change in the ACC power structure is much more a product of what FSU and Miami (and others) have given away, compared to what B.C., Syracuse and Pitt have taken for themselves. If FSU is 4-6 against a weak ACC, not a strong ACC, it makes it that much harder to think 2019 can put all the pieces back together again.

FSU is in Humpty Dumpty territory right now.

That matters so much more than the cessation of the bowl streak.

It doesn’t make the bowl streak entirely irrelevant, but it does make the bowl streak a comparatively modest source of suffering.

Florida State shouldn’t be happy when it goes 8-4 and heads to the Belk Bowl, or 7-5 and to the Military Bowl. If FSU isn’t playing in a prominent bowl game, it has fallen short of the mark. That’s what should cause the most outrage among Seminole fans, not the denial of a chance to go to Shreveport.

Sure, be angry that the bowl streak is on the verge of ending. You should be. Just don’t make it the first, second or third thing you are most angry about. This is something worth lamenting, but the problems which plague FSU football right now — and the extent to which those plagues exist — should elicit far more displeasure than the difference between 6-6 and 5-7. If 6-6 is that big a deal for Florida State compared to 5-7, the very standards this program ought to aspire to have been lost.

Think about that as the Noles prepare for Boston College.

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1993 distant, yet relevant, as FSU returns to Notre Dame

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On one hand, 1993 feels like 100 years ago, not merely 25, for the Florida State Seminoles.

They aren’t in the same zip code — or county, or state, or continent — as the Bobby Bowden teams of olden days. Returning to that position will take time. There is too much to remake at the moment. Coach Willie Taggart’s words about his players this season strike a chord reminiscent of Charlie Strong at Texas. This doesn’t mean Taggart will fail, but it does mean he will require multiple seasons to see if he can get this project steered in the right direction. The world of 1993 is very far away for FSU.

This distance from the past is amplified by the details surrounding that celebrated contest in South Bend, one of the true larger-than-life regular season games college football delivers once in a great while.

Ohio State-Michigan is often a big deal, but only in a very few instances does that game swallow up everything else. Recall the 2006 edition of that game in which the winner would play for the national championship, a game magnified by the death of Bo Schembechler one day before kickoff. THAT was a larger-than-life OSU-Michigan meeting.

Every now and then, one such game appears on the landscape. It is not an annual occurrence, but examples do emerge:

1969 Texas-Arkansas.

1971 Nebraska-Oklahoma.

1974 Notre Dame-USC.

You can sort through college football history and identify a select few games which towered above the rest of that regular season and are still talked about today. In the mid-1980s, college football fans in the state of Florida began to experience this adrenaline rush on a regular basis.

Oklahoma playing Miami in the Orange Bowl stadium for a regular-season game was a through-the-roof experience. So was Florida State playing Miami in a 1988 season opener when those two programs were just beginning to dominate the sport. Miami’s 1988 game at Notre Dame might have been the most-hyped regular-season game of the entire 1980s… and the game matched it.

These events help put 1993 FSU-Notre Dame in context. The Miami-Notre Dame game played five years earlier represented the closest comparison. College football owns a special intensity when games of this magnitude emerge. The special part about being a Florida State (or Miami, or Florida) fan in the early 1990s was that a huge regular-season game became a way of life. FSU-Miami games had become annual local Super Bowls in their significance. Florida finally emerged as a rival worthy of FSU’s concern. Florida-Tennessee games began to take on enormous importance, especially when a fellow named Peyton Manning arrived on the scene.

Yet, of any regular-season college football game played in the first half of the 1990s, was any game more hyped than Florida State-Notre Dame?

I don’t think so.

Remember that this game was played on November 11 in an era which had 11 regular-season games for every college football team, not the 12 we have today. There was no playoff, just the “poll and bowl” non-format the Bowl Championship Series replaced five seasons later in 1998. Everyone in college football felt that the winner of this game would play for the national title.

This was viewed as Bobby Bowden’s moment to finally cross the threshold and win a national championship after years of falling just short, often due to a missed late field goal against Miami. This was Notre Dame’s next opportunity to add to its lore and legend, five years after that epic win over Miami in South Bend. This was Charlie Ward’s chance to put a punctuation mark on his Heisman Trophy season. This was Lou Holtz’s chance to win a second national title at Notre Dame and dramatically increase his stature in the larger history of college football.

Colorful coaches. A new-age power against college football’s most famous school.

Florida speed against Midwestern toughness in cold, gray November weather.

No. 1 versus No. 2 late in the season — and not in a conference championship game.

This game had everything, and at a point in history when the internet was JUUUUUUUUST beginning to get off the ground, we shouldn’t be surprised this game changed the way college football was covered.

No, I am not referring to the NBC broadcast which had Bob Costas as the anchor and a man named O.J. Simpson as an on-field interviewer, one year before his white Ford Bronco became seared into the American consciousness. The 1993 Florida State-Notre Dame game changed the coverage of college football forever because it inspired a show called “ESPN College GameDay,” to do its first ever road trip.

What had previously been a studio show became a traveling carnival. Chris Fowler, Lee Corso, and — before he became a reviled figure in college football — Craig James went to South Bend to begin an era which continues to elicit intense fan interest 25 years later. College GameDay’s road trips and ESPN’s rise as the central authority in college football broadcasting — and college football media influence over the rankings and Heisman races — emerged together.

Florida State-Notre Dame in 1993 represented in many ways the birth of ESPN as the new kingmaker in college football, starting a process which continuously gained more traction and remains firmly in evidence today.

For all the ways in which Florida State is far removed from its 1993 heyday, the impact of that 1993 game is still felt in the media world. It is also felt on the Notre Dame side of this 2018 matchup, a quarter of a century later.

Notre Dame is acutely aware of the reality that if it loses just one game, Michigan will probably pass the Fighting Irish in the playoff pecking order The larger story of the 1993 FSU-Notre Dame game — a story which transcends the game itself — is that Notre Dame got caught in the “letdown/hangover trap” later that November against Boston College and a man Jacksonville Jaguar fans know well: B.C head coach Tom Coughlin. The Eagles stunned the Irish on a late field goal.

Because the timing of a loss (late in the season as opposed to early) has so often mattered in deciding national champions in non-playoff seasons, Notre Dame slid to the Cotton Bowl to face Texas A&M. Florida State played Nebraska in the Orange Bowl. There was no dream rematch in the Fiesta Bowl between the two schools.

When the smoke cleared at the end of the bowl games — with FSU and Notre Dame both winning — the Seminoles won the national title. The Irish, despite their head-to-head win over Florida State, finished second in the polls.

Notre Dame is staring at the reality that it could lose once in the stretch run of the 2018 season, finish with one loss alongside Michigan, and yet fall behind the Wolverines despite a head-to-head win.

So much has changed since the 1993 Florida State-Notre Dame game, and more precisely, so much in college football has changed BECAUSE of the 1993 FSU-ND clash. Yet, for all the things which have changed, and for all the things Willie Taggart WANTS to change in Tallahassee over the next few years, the reality that Notre Dame could lose a big postseason argument despite a head-to-head win over a high-profile opponent remains the same.

You can bet the folks at College GameDay — 25 years after that first traveling road show for the Seminoles and the Irish — will discuss that question this Saturday, before the 2018 reunion of one of college football’s most important games of all time.

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