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The silliness of suggesting Bucs trade WR DeSean Jackson, now

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We have the full understanding that it’s the summer doldrums of the pro football, and other than teams working out with OTAs and mini-camps or an occasional arrest, etc. there’s not much news.

So, often times, sites and writers will just create conjecture, not based on anything, …just to create it and hope people “click.”

So, when CBS Sports.com and writer Ryan Wilson decided Tuesday to put out a list of possible trades that could happen, now that the new league year (June 1st) has begun, it had the name DeSean Jackson.

Regardless of the premise of salary cap relief, that the Bucs would consider trading Jackson post free agency and post draft makes it pure silliness.

Yes, he has a large price tag at $11 million for this season, but that’s just the 15th highest priced receiver contract in the league for 2018.

And further, the Bucs can get out of his deal after this season with no future cap hit, if they want.

Then, you consider that a team in need of a receiver would have possibly given the Buccaneers at least a #2, if not a #1 pick in return in April’s draft. Granted the Dolphins practically gave the Browns Jarvis Landry for a third round pick this year and another pick in 2019, but still.

The bottom line is that the Bucs don’t have another speed burning proven receiver on their roster. And Jackson is a threat that allows Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Adam Humphries and tight ends like Cameron Brate and O.J. Howard to operate.

Now, it was well documented that QB Jameis Winston struggled throughout 2017 trying to find Jackson with the deep ball, but that is something that can improve. And to that end, Jackson discussed earlier this off season he worked with Winston and Evans both at Texas A&M’s campus and in L.A., extensively.

It’s work that they didn’t do together away from the facility last March through June after Jackson signed his free agent deal with the Bucs.

And, one more factor, trading Jackson at this stage would obviously anger Winston and likely cause upheaval in the offensive meeting room.

In conclusion, it simply makes no sense.

No matter the cap benefit, there’s zero chance Tampa Bay would part with DeSean Jackson at this stage headed to the season.

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  1. Mathew Keen

    August 12, 2018 at 2:51 am

    U are literally delusional if u think Desean Jackson ever would have gotten the Bucs a 2nd let alone a first. The Eagles got nothing for him when he was making less and 6 years younger coming off a 1,300 yard season. He would have tops brought a 5th, but even that is highly unlikely.

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Titans DB Adoree Jackson stood out against Bucs receivers Thursday

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Day two of practices in Nahsville for the Bucs and the Titans concluded around lunchtime and one player for Tennessee that made an impression was on their defensive side.

Second year defensive back Adoree’ Jackson, the Titans first round pick a year ago, went head to head repeatedly with Bucs WRs Mike Evans and DeSean Jackson and more than held his own.

Here was an example of Jackson going against the Bucs’ Jackson in the redzone:

What Jackson, listed at 5’11 185 lbs., has demonstrated is that he can play much taller than his stature, if needed.  And Titans media continued to take note while watching him battle at the Titans facility:

Granted, these were in a lot of cases drills and 7 on 7 repetitions, but still when it was 11 on 11, at times, Jackson was standing out. This is interesting, because big free agent acquisition Malcolm Butler has been having some trouble one on one with Evans and Jackson over the two days.

During new Titans coach Mike Vrabel’s news conference, he was asked after briefly about Jackson:

“I didn’t see the backflip. Saw the ball get batted down. If he wants to backflip after he intercepts the ball, bats it down, I’m all for it.”

Jackson did not have an interception but did have 17 passes defended and 61 tackles, while playing in all 16 games in 2017. And, one of the other reasons that Tennessee spent a first round pick on him is his kick return ability. He was near lethal on both punts and kickoffs while at USC.

In his rookie year, Jackson averaged 8.5 yards per punt return and 23.1 yards on his kickoff returns, but his longest return was only 25 yards in 2017.

Now the question becomes: will Jackson take the next steps to become a great corner and dynamic returner this year in his career? We should get a good sample from him playing against the Bucs for a lot of the first half on Saturday night.

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Bucs QB Winston on practice with Titans- “We’re out here competing”

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Aug 9, 2018; Miami Gardens, FL, USA; Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston (3) calls a play at the line against the Miami Dolphins during the first half at Hard Rock Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Jasen Vinlove-USA TODAY Sports
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Day one of workouts with the Buccaneers and the Titans concluded on Wednesday and by all accounts, the Buccaneers offense was solid.

And for quarterback Jameis Winston it’s especially important to get good work in for a lot of reasons.

As you probably know by now, Winston is suspended for the first three games of the upcoming season for violation of the NFL personal conduct policy. However there’s also extra motivation while his team is practicing against Marcus Mariota’s team.

As we wrote earlier on Wednesday those two will be forever linked for a lot of different reasons from college and now the NFL.

And Winston did not shy away from questions about comparisons to Mariota and other subjects when he met with the media Wednesday afternoon:

On working against the Titans defensive backs for the first workout,

“First of all, I’ve just got to thank the Titans for letting us come out here and compete against them. I think it’s so much fun playing against different guys every day. When you’ve got guys like Mike (Evans) and DeSean (Jackson) paired against Malcolm Butler and the 25 (Adoree’ Jackson), oh my gosh, he’s incredible. So, it’s just good to get out here and compete.”

Here was an example of Winston hitting WR Chris Godwin in one of one on one drills:

Winston then talked about the value of getting to practice with “live reps,” against another defense:

“Yeah, it’s the closest feeling to a game that you get. We play against our guys every single day and sometimes they can predict some things that we’re throwing at them and sometimes make it unfair, especially on the defensive side when they’ve seen the same guys every single day. When you play against new guys, we get as much work done as they get of playing against us, too.”

And most of Winston talked about improving all the time, even with looming time off:

“I’m getting better every single day….Again, I’m just out here to compete. When you are out here competing, you don’t think about stuff (not being available for first three games) like that.”

It is expected that Winston will get the chance to compete some in the first half of the game on Saturday night. However, his work with the likes of Mike Evans, DeSean Jackson and Chris Godwin in these practices with Tennessee is also very valuable, as well.

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Bucs practicing with Titans- Winston/Mariota debate continues

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As the Buccaneers and the Titans hit the practice field together on Wednesday, the ongoing highly-publicized debate rekindles about who was the better choice three and a half years ago to lead a franchise?

The Bucs held the number one overall pick in the 2015 NFL Draft and had a very intriguing and also controversial decision to make. Should they take the regional favorite and former Heisman trophy-winning and National Champion quarterback, Jameis Winston, from Florida State?

Or should they take the Heisman Trophy winning star quarterback from the University of Oregon in Marcus Mariota?

As you know by now, the Bucs took the risk, despite Jameis Winston’s background problems, including a sexual assault allegation at FSU, and drafted him anyway with that first pick.

Tennessee wasted no time and took Mariota to lead their franchise with the second overall pick.

And as the rotation of the NFL schedule would have it, and the NFL wasting no time to seize the opportunity, the Buccaneers hosted the Titans in week one of the 2015 season.

Weeks and weeks of built up to that opening game, which lead to Mariota playing brilliantly throwing four touchdown passes and having a near perfect quarterback rating. Meanwhile, Winston’s first NFL regular-season pass was intercepted and run back for a touchdown.

Winston would go on to have a shaky day with another “pick six,”  and, the Titans blew out the Buccaneers 42-14.

From then on, there has been” back and forth” scrutiny over which player is better for their franchise, and in the Bucs case, how might things have been different, if they had simply taken Mariota?

Both players would go on to have their teams on the verge of the playoffs at the end of the 2016 season. But, despite Winston having a good season, the Bucs could not capitalize on being 8-5 and lost two critical games at the end of the year at Dallas and at New Orleans virtually eliminating them from the playoffs.

Meanwhile, Mariota also had Tennessee in position, but was injured in week 16 suffering a broken leg in a defeat at the Jaguars, which basically eliminated the Titans from playoff contention.

Fast forward to the 2017 season, where Winston suffered a shoulder injury that cost him parts or all of five games. Tampa Bay floundered and were never relevant in 2017, finishing 5-11. Meanwhile, Mariota had a strong season and helped by Tennessee strong run game with Derrick Henry and a good defense, the Titans earned a wild-card spot.

Mariota then led a second-half comeback in the AFC Wildcard win at Kansas City. Thus, cementing his legacy for now, in Nashville.

Meanwhile, as has been heavily reported, allegations surfaced in November that Winston had inappropriately touched an Arizona female Uber driver in March of 2016. The NFL essentially believed the accuser and suspended Winston for the first three games of this upcoming season.

This further casts doubt as to Winston’s future in Tampa Bay.

So while it is just training camp, and these are just practices before a preseason game upcoming on Saturday night.

Nevertheless, get ready for much more debate and talk about which quarterback was the better choice then, which quarterback is the better bet now, and how big of a mistake did the Bucs truly make three years ago?

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