Connect with us

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Lynch denied Hall of Fame again, while Eagles great Dawkins gets in

Florida Football Insiders

Published

on

Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports

With the announcement of the 2018 NFL Hall of Fame inductees on Saturday night in Minneapolis, we knew there would be “givens’ like Randy Moss, Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher getting in on their first try. And, then there would be controversy, as well on who got left out, again.

Former Buccaneer and Bronco great, John Lynch is in the latter category, for a fifth straight year he did not get the votes.

The argument for Lynch is a strong one, and this is amplified by the fact that he’s been a finalist being discussed year after year on the final day to get elected to Canton.

So, while Lynch did not make it in , again, this time one of his contemporaries, safety Brian Dawkins of the Eagles, did get in and it makes the debate a little more curious.

If you’re going on statistics alone the players they are comprable careers with Dawkins having a slight edge. He played three more years (16), than Lynch. But, their tackle stats are almost identical. That favors Lynch

Dawkins had 11 more interceptions and 13 more career sacks, which is compelling.

However, Lynch had 9 Pro Bowl appearances to 8 for Dawkins. And Lynch finished his career stronger making eight of those Pro bowls in his last nine seasons in Tampa Bay and Denver. Dawkins made six of his final nine with Philly and Denver.

The bigger argument for Lynch was that he was a more fearsome hitter than Dawkins in the middle of a Buccaneer defense that dominated from 1999 to 2002 including a Super Bowl win

Dawkins was never on a dominant, number one defense, and did not win a Superbowl, while he was in Philadelphia or Denver.

It is very difficult to quantify safeties the same way as defensive backs or linebackers for Hall of Fame criteria. And these players were equal in a lot of ways. Lynch reacted with class on Saturday night:

Now, Lynch may very well get in next year or soon, because there’s obviously sentiment in the room every year for him. However, next January, former Ravens great safety Ed Reed is first time eligible and will present a strong argument.

And, for 2018, it had to be a bit discouraging Saturday, stats against him or not, for Lynch to see Dawkins beat him to Canton for 2018.

Advertisement
Click to comment

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

What is status of Bucs LB LaVonte David’s injured knee?

Florida Football Insiders

Published

on

Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports

It’s been a rough enough last seven games for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, now comes word that another prominent defender may miss this week’s match-up with the Giants. A report Tuesday afternoon said that linebacker Lavonte David has been diagnosed with a knee sprain and his status is in doubt. That may not be the case, though. More on that in a moment.

First, Jenna Laine, the ESPN reporter for the Bucs, reported Tuesday afternoon about David’s injury from Sunday:

David was injured in the third quarter of Sunday’s lost to the Redskins, while making a tackle. He was examined underneath the “mysterious blue tent” and was initially diagnosed as being questionable to return to the game. He did return and played in the fourth quarter of the 16-3 loss to Washington.

And, a source with knowledge of David situation told F.F.I. on Monday that David had been examined, and it was not believed to be a serious injury. Further, the source told us that David would wear a knee brace this week in practice and be able to play in the game on Sunday.

The seven year veteran and two-time Pro Bowler is one of the key players on the Buccaneers defense and currently has 71 tackles with nine of them for losses. And he’s being counted on more heavily after Pro Bowl middle linebacker Kwon Alexander tore his ACL in an October game with Cleveland and will miss the rest of the season.

The Bucs have also seen starters in the defensive backfield Vernon Hargreaves and Chris Conte already placed on injured reserve back in September. Also Pro Bowl defensive tackle Gerald McCoy missed two games with a calf strain and has not looked a hundred percent in the last two games with Carolina and Washington since coming back from the injury.

If David is unable to play or is limited on Sunday, the Bucs will count more heavily on reserve linebacker Devante Bond. Bond has seen more playing time after Alexander’s injury and will be asked to increase his responsibilities in the middle of the Buccaneers defense, as well.

Continue Reading

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Buccaneers revolving door of kickers turns to Cairo Santos

Florida Football Insiders

Published

on

Jasen Vinlove-USA TODAY Sports

In what has become an all-too-familiar situation, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers once again got rid of a kicker on Monday afternoon and will, once again, try to get some consistency out of their latest signing.

Gone is former offseason free-agent acquisition Chandler Catanzaro, who missed two critical field goals in Sunday 16 – 3 lost to the Redskins. The latest misses were part of six missed kicks (either field goals or extra points) over the course of the last five Buccaneer games by Cantanzaro.

Enter free agent Cairo Santos, who kicked in two games earlier this year for the Los Angeles Rams. Santos has been well-traveled himself having kick previously in 2017 in both Chicago and Kansas City.

He originally entered the NFL as an undrafted free agent out of Tulane in 2014 with the Chiefs and made 89 of 105 field goals for 85% in his K.C. career.

Santos coming in the door as Cantanzaro leaves, is nothing new for the Buccaneers and their fans. This is the seventh kicking change Tampa Bay has made, since the start of the 2014 season.

Seven. In just five seasons.

The Buccaneers very famously drafted Roberto Aguayo out of Florida State trading up in the second round of the 2016 draft to try to correct the kicking problems. However, Aguayo was erratic in his rookie season, including leading the NFL in missed extra points.

Aguayo was released after the first preseason game of 2017 when he missed two field goals against Cincinnati. The Bucs at that time gave the kicking job to veteran Nick Folk, but Folk only lasted four games himself-making just six of 11 field goals, as he had privately been battling a leg injury from the start of the season.

Tampa Bay then turned back to their 2014 kicker, Patrick Murray, who ended up making 19 of 23 field goals over the course of the final 12 games.

That led Bucs GM Jason Licht, who had drafted Aguayo, to go after Cantanzaro, who had kicked successfully for the Cardinals and the Jets. And, they gave him a $10 million dollar contract, including $3 million guaranteed in the first year.

Cantanzaro became more inconsistent, as the last few weeks wore on, and he had a three game stretch against Atlanta, Cleveland and Cincinnati, where he missed an extra point in each game. In the Browns game he missed the potential game-winning field goal in the last play of regulation, only to redeem himself with a 59-yard field goal for the win in overtime.

The final straw that ended his tenure with the Bucs was his two missed field goals in Sunday’s defeat. The first from near point blank range at 30 yards out (above) in the second quarter and then, a 48-yard attempt that would have tied the game at 6-6 in the third quarter.

Back to Santos, he kicked two games for the Rams in the absence of their kicker Greg Zuerlein who had a minor injury, making five of six field goals and also five of six extra points.

The Buccaneers coincidentally signed him on his 27th birthday Monday:

If there’s one thing Buccaneer fans have learned, it’s don’t get too attached to the new guy kicking the ball towards the yellow goal posts.

That’s because, there’s been plenty of them over the last five seasons.

Continue Reading

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Bucs staying with Ryan Fitzpatrick doesn’t appear to be Koetter decision only

Florida Football Insiders

Published

on

Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports

The Buccaneers are staying with veteran backup now starter Ryan Fitzpatrick for this week’s game with the Giants. But, the bigger story Monday was surrounding the announcement that coach coach Dirk Koetter made, and it appeared it isn’t only his decision.

That’s because, anyone with any experience in watching body language and how questions are answered, could tell that Kotter was not exactly convincing that it was only his decision. Judge for yourself, if you like early in the press conference here:

“We’re going to go with Fitz this week. Yeah. That’s how it’s going to stay,” Koetter said with his voice trailing off at the end.

He was then asked to follow up of how long it was going to stay that way? And, his answer was unconvincing with a simple, “Til we change.”

Finally, he was asked about why he was sticking with Fitzpatrick? And Koetter said, “I just think he gives us the best opportunity, (to win) right now.”

Fitzpatrick was 29 of 41 for 406 yards with no TDs in Sunday’s 16-3 loss to the Redskins, but continued with the Bucs recent trend of turnovers from the quarterback position with three more of them Sunday. And, they were all killers.

The first interception came as the Bucs had moved in the red zone on their opening drive of the game. The 35 year old veteran overthrew his intended receiver and was picked off by Josh Norman.

Later in the second quarter, the second turnover was another bad interception thrown, while locking onto a receiver over the middle and it led to a Redskins field goal and a 6 – 3 lead.

Fitzpatrick could not not be completely blamed for the final turnover, when he was blindside sacked by Patrick Smith and fumbled in the fourth quarter after the Bucs have driven inside the 10-yard line trailing 16 – 3.

Nonetheless, if the primary reason that Jameis Winston had gone back to the bench after three starts was his turnovers, which were abundant, the same argument can be made about Fitzpatrick.

He has five turnovers in the last two games and both are losses.

Still, this seems to be an overall strategy by the Glazer family that owns the team and it may even have the input of general manager Jason Licht, too. A strategy that the team has moved on from Winston for the future and will utilize Fitzpatrick in the short-term. And then, perhaps they turn to young back up Ryan Griffin for some playing experience at the end of the year, if the Bucs are officially eliminated from the playoffs soon.

Again, Koetter did not get into those kind of details at this news conference, but it’s rather obvious that if the belief was that Winston had a chance to help them and had a future in Tampa Bay, they have all the reason you need to go back to the former #1 overall pick, now and stick with him.

Yet another complication in the decisions being made is: the Bucs have picked up the fifth year option on Winston rookie deal. That option is only guaranteed for injury in the event that he cannot pass a physical next March. And with Tampa Bay now 3 – 6, the discussion may be centered around “no need to risk it” in that scenario with a team that is not going to end up making the playoffs, anyway.

It’s entirely possible to Fitzpatrick could be really bad next Sunday in New York and if he is, we will very quickly find out whether Koetter alone can make a decision during the game to put Winston in. However, if that scenario plays out and he doesn’t bench Fitzpatrick during next week’s game, then you definitely have the answer that it’s not just “best chance to win” with Winston.

And it isn’t only Dirk Koetter’s decision.

No, the bigger question that would asked would be: have we seen the end of Jameis Winston, as a starting quarterback in Tampa Bay or not?

Continue Reading

Trending